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	<title>Comments on: UEFA give referees power to abandon games over Racist chanting</title>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://scotzine.com/2009/07/02/uefa-give-referees-power-to-abandon-games-over-racist-chanting/comment-page-1/#comment-4594</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye and its people like yourself fobbing such racist songs off as banter that allow thes scum and eejits to continually sing it - if it was a song against an ethnic minority it would be condemned by all - yet because it is aimed against the Irish, then its okay. Theremay be some who think its just banter, but there is a huge proportion that think its racist - and if organisations such as Nil by Mouth, Give Racism the Red Card as well as the Irish Government state that its racist - then its racist and you cannot ignore that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye and its people like yourself fobbing such racist songs off as banter that allow thes scum and eejits to continually sing it &#8211; if it was a song against an ethnic minority it would be condemned by all &#8211; yet because it is aimed against the Irish, then its okay. Theremay be some who think its just banter, but there is a huge proportion that think its racist &#8211; and if organisations such as Nil by Mouth, Give Racism the Red Card as well as the Irish Government state that its racist &#8211; then its racist and you cannot ignore that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kopfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kopfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liverpool of course but your paranoia seems to tell you something else.

Yes iam racist im a fully paid up member of the KKK so I am.  Racist against the poor downtrodden irish when im half irish myself lol.  I know plenty of Irish who have no affinity to a scottish team who just see that song as a bit of banter.

The words get a grip apply here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liverpool of course but your paranoia seems to tell you something else.</p>
<p>Yes iam racist im a fully paid up member of the KKK so I am.  Racist against the poor downtrodden irish when im half irish myself lol.  I know plenty of Irish who have no affinity to a scottish team who just see that song as a bit of banter.</p>
<p>The words get a grip apply here.</p>
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		<title>By: danny murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whos Danny Murphy????????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whos Danny Murphy????????????????</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well given that you can&#039;t tell the difference between racism and banter it just goes to prove everything about you then doesn&#039;t it? And what about your &#039;neutral&#039; viewpoint you were trying to pass off at the start? Rather than trying to hide behin a neutrals viewpoint why didnt you just come out and state who you supported - given your comments weall now know who you support - so why the deception?

True the irish have been through worse, but that does not mean you and your like can continue to sing a racist song because they have had it worse in the past. Is it okay for Neo-Nazi scum to attack Jews or sing songs glorifying anti-semitism just because the Jews had it worse in the past? of course its not but because its the Irish and not the blacks, jews, asians then its okay to do so? Just proves the point kopfan that you are racist in your views - it might not be in regards to folks colour of their skin but you still reek of racism it oozes out of your pores. Your the one who needs to get a life - singing a racist song at a football match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well given that you can&#8217;t tell the difference between racism and banter it just goes to prove everything about you then doesn&#8217;t it? And what about your &#8216;neutral&#8217; viewpoint you were trying to pass off at the start? Rather than trying to hide behin a neutrals viewpoint why didnt you just come out and state who you supported &#8211; given your comments weall now know who you support &#8211; so why the deception?</p>
<p>True the irish have been through worse, but that does not mean you and your like can continue to sing a racist song because they have had it worse in the past. Is it okay for Neo-Nazi scum to attack Jews or sing songs glorifying anti-semitism just because the Jews had it worse in the past? of course its not but because its the Irish and not the blacks, jews, asians then its okay to do so? Just proves the point kopfan that you are racist in your views &#8211; it might not be in regards to folks colour of their skin but you still reek of racism it oozes out of your pores. Your the one who needs to get a life &#8211; singing a racist song at a football match.</p>
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		<title>By: Kopfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kopfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fookin ell what happened to football in jockland have you all lost what banter is all about, all its about now is who is offended and false crys for racism and sectarianism.

The irish have been through worse than a song seriously get a life mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fookin ell what happened to football in jockland have you all lost what banter is all about, all its about now is who is offended and false crys for racism and sectarianism.</p>
<p>The irish have been through worse than a song seriously get a life mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they are not bocked kopfan - the fact is you posted about twelve comments all the same and given that every comment has to be moderated - whats the point of approving all twelve of them? So I deleted all of them and left one up - given that they all said the same thing - so whats your point again or what are you trying to imply?

And the famine song may be humorous to the likes of you and your like but there are fre more folk out there that not only hate that song including some in the rangers support, but outwith that fan base also be it celtic fans or not. It is a racist song, it has been deemed to be an arrestable offence for anyone singing it and the recent court case involving William Walls has proven that, and the appeal that was conducted on Walls&#039; behalf by Donald Findlay QC - a  sectarian bigot btw interestingly who paid for Walls to haveFindlay as his QC??? certainly not legal aid thats for sure - stated that the song is not just banter and is not just like the flower of scotland or god save the queen etc etc.

Certain groups who have overreacted to - Irish Government, Give Racism the Red Card, Nil by Mouth, Strathclyde Police, Rangers Football Club - for actually getting the cops involved in the first place, the Scottish Government - the list goes on. Yep they are all wrong Kopfan - and you and the Rangers support are right - take the hint, its not a humourous song nor is it just banter. The same comment pops up time and time again with this subject - but what if the folk the Rangers fans were singing the song too were asylum seekers, blacks, asians, jews? You bring up the racism aimed towards Mark Walters back in the 1980s which was disgraceful, but that was over 20 years ago - TFS is in the here and now and yet you seem to justify anti-irish racism and yet condone other forms of racism based on skin colour. Whats the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they are not bocked kopfan &#8211; the fact is you posted about twelve comments all the same and given that every comment has to be moderated &#8211; whats the point of approving all twelve of them? So I deleted all of them and left one up &#8211; given that they all said the same thing &#8211; so whats your point again or what are you trying to imply?</p>
<p>And the famine song may be humorous to the likes of you and your like but there are fre more folk out there that not only hate that song including some in the rangers support, but outwith that fan base also be it celtic fans or not. It is a racist song, it has been deemed to be an arrestable offence for anyone singing it and the recent court case involving William Walls has proven that, and the appeal that was conducted on Walls&#8217; behalf by Donald Findlay QC &#8211; a  sectarian bigot btw interestingly who paid for Walls to haveFindlay as his QC??? certainly not legal aid thats for sure &#8211; stated that the song is not just banter and is not just like the flower of scotland or god save the queen etc etc.</p>
<p>Certain groups who have overreacted to &#8211; Irish Government, Give Racism the Red Card, Nil by Mouth, Strathclyde Police, Rangers Football Club &#8211; for actually getting the cops involved in the first place, the Scottish Government &#8211; the list goes on. Yep they are all wrong Kopfan &#8211; and you and the Rangers support are right &#8211; take the hint, its not a humourous song nor is it just banter. The same comment pops up time and time again with this subject &#8211; but what if the folk the Rangers fans were singing the song too were asylum seekers, blacks, asians, jews? You bring up the racism aimed towards Mark Walters back in the 1980s which was disgraceful, but that was over 20 years ago &#8211; TFS is in the here and now and yet you seem to justify anti-irish racism and yet condone other forms of racism based on skin colour. Whats the difference?</p>
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